. >> let's not forget, we are actually rewarding corporations with tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas still, and that's got to like stop. >> what about student loan rates? i mean, coming up the first part of august, we're going to see the interest rate go to an astronomical of over 6% when banks, of course, get it for half a percent from the fed. there is a terrible inequity there. are we going to see a resurgence in the trades, or are we going to see more and more trade school type opportunities for young people? where are young people going? zerlina, you're just out with a law degree. what do you see happening? >> yes, because we have to have that happen. and one of the reasons why women are in the workforce in the numbers they are is because they're going to college, they're going to law school, they're going to medical school and getting masters degrees and things of that nature. so they're the ones going to get the higher educations. but then they're getting all of this debt, and now if interest rates are going up, they're going to be saddled with all of this debt for years and y